The conversation

How are you doing?

I'd be doing a lot better if the weather would clear up.

Did God rain on your parade?

Something like that, but I don't think it was God I'm an atheist.

I doubt it probably more agnostic.

What?

Atheism doesn't exist.

What are you talking about I just said it did, God doesn't exist.

What does God look like to you?

Nothing, I just told you God does not exist.

So is that your definition of existence then, being something?

Okay, I guess you could say that.

Is that rock something?

Yes.

Is the sidewalk something?

Yes.

Do they then exist?

In a manner of speaking, yes.

Is a thought something?

Yes.

So have you ever thought about God?

No.

Are you sure? Do you just jump to illogical conclusions without thinking?

No, you're trying to twist my words around.

I'm trying to lead you into the light, that you might know the truth.

I have used logic to come to the conclusion that there is no God.

So you have thought about God?

Yeah, okay I have thought about God and I don't believe.

Your logic is fooling you because you have already admitted you believe in God.

No I haven't, you are not hearing what I'm saying.

I hear you clearly, I don't think you are listening to yourself.

Whatever, I don't want to talk about your God.

It's not my God; It's your God we are talking about.

I don't believe in God.

You have to admit though, you have thought about God. If you had'nt you could'nt actually say without doubt in your own mind that there might possibly be a God. If you had not at least thought about the fact of God, to simply disclaim His being would be somewhat stupid. Are you stupid?

No.

So you have thought about God?

Yes.

So if a thought is something and something is existence, then even if God is just a pure and simple thought, you have to admit He exists.

You can twist my words all you want, I still don't believe.

We have established you do believe, even if God is just a thought, we just have to work on your salvation now.

So if I give you that, If God does exist simply as a thought,then you have to concede that God would cease to exist soon

as I stop thinking about Him.

Everything man has created originated from just a thought, I believe that you would be hard pressed to stop thinking about it. Just because something is not on your mind for a moment, that does not defer it's relevance.

Yeah but if God is just a thought, then once the thought is gone then so is God.

What about when someone else thinks about the thought that you call god? To be completely honest though you have to understand that God is more than a thought, much more.

So you said that atheism couldn't exist, how can you explain that?

What does your atheist religion claim you believe in?

It's not a religion; it's a lack of religion.

If that were true there wouldn't be so many people out there trying to evangelize for atheism. I would call it one of the more aggressive religions there is. So what is it that your atheism worships?

Nothing, that's the point, there is no God.

Define nothing.

How do you define nothing? It is nothing, now I have to ask you are you stupid?

Possibly, but think about it in nothing, still there is something.

Huh?

What's in your hand?

Nothing, Ha, see I win.

Okay so if you cupped your hand would it hold air?

Yeah, kind of.

Isn't air one of those life sustaining somethings?

Yes, but there is still nothing.

If it is something you require to stay alive how can you say it is nothing? Even in the vacuum of space there is something, in all places at all times there is something. Something is like God in that aspect.

So God is something?

See I knew you would come around.

No, wait a minute, that's not what I said

Okay, doesn't nothingness define non-existence?

More or less, that's what I've been saying, God is nothing

But then to believe in nothing, would be a non-existent hypothesis.

Exactly what I'm telling you. God doesn't exist he is nothing, what part of that don't you understand?

We have already established your belief in God now it's just a matter of your acceptance of Jesus as Lord and Savior, but we are showing now that atheism does not exist.

Yeah but now I've got you, because by your own argument if a thought is something and something exists then I have thought about it and I believe that atheism does exist, so now what do you have to say?

But your belief tells you to believe in nothing, nothingness is an inconceivable concept. Remember even in nothing there is something, so I don't understand how a belief in nothing can be upheld.

It's not really a belief in nothing; it's a belief in no God.

We have already established however your belief in God, so how can that be a belief? Your belief structure has a flaw. If you would like to fix that we could discuss how you might find salvation through belief in Jesus Christ.

No thanks.

You don't want to know the truth?

I know the truth I know what I believe.

So you are then assured of salvation?

I don't know nothing about that, but I do know that what I believe is the truth to me.

So truth is relative then? Is that what you are saying?

Yeah, you know everybody has there own perception of what is true.

Wow it would be great if the law worked like that, no your honor that is not one of my laws so I can't be charged with it.

Now you're talking!

So I'm not really sure if you are an anarchist or a relativist. Do you know?

I'm hopeless

We all are that's why we need Jesus, that's why he paid the price for our sins that's why we can't do it on our own. I've got to get going, you have a great day and may God bless you

You too.